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Re: NNTP feed.
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen () sprunk org>
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:58:55 -0500
Thus spake "Greg Boehnlein" <damin () nacs net>
I came to much the same conclusion several years ago, when we finally decommissioned our NNTP Servers and out-sourced the service to an outside company. Running an NNTP server was a full-time job, and the 500 or so people that used it didn't generate enough revenue for us to continue managing it inside.
That seems to be consensus among ISPs: there just aren't enough users today to justify the cost of hiring a full-time news admin, deal with abuse and customer service issues, and pay for the storage space for 8TB/day of content.
OTOH, it might be doable if you didn't carry the alt.binaries groups; those account for well over 90% of the bytes on usenet today, and virtually all of the complainers. If your customers want the binaries groups, you can easily point them to a dozen different commercial news providers that do carry them -- and have the economy of scale needed to turn a profit.
Another option is to run a caching-only news server, provided you can find a willing upstream. This will save you most of the bandwidth if you don't have many users, though again excluding binaries may be needed to cut down on the whiney pirates.
(Besides, all the binaries on usenet are available via BitTorrent somewhere anyways; NNTP does not make a good piracy protocol from a technical perspective, only from an anonymity one)
S Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws theK5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
Current thread:
- NNTP feed. Drew Weaver (Sep 05)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: NNTP feed. John van Oppen (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Deepak Jain (Sep 05)
- RE: NNTP feed. John van Oppen (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Jeroen Massar (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Mikael Abrahamsson (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Greg Boehnlein (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Stephen Sprunk (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Matt Ghali (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Andrew - Supernews (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Deepak Jain (Sep 05)
- RE: NNTP feed. John van Oppen (Sep 05)
- RE: NNTP feed. Justin M. Streiner (Sep 05)
- RE: NNTP feed. Justin M. Streiner (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Daniel Roesen (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Simon Lyall (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Richard A Steenbergen (Sep 05)
- Re: NNTP feed. Elijah Savage (Sep 06)