Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

["Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>]

On Jul 11, 2006, at 3:09 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 11:19:51PM -0700,
>  Steve Sobol <sjsobol () JustThe net> wrote
>  a message of 16 lines which said:
>
> > There's a big difference, of course, between INTENTIONALLY pointing
> > your computers at DNS servers that do this kind of thing, and having
> > it done for you without your knowledge and/or consent.
>
> As Steven Bellovin pointed out, most OpenDNS users will not choose it:
> it will be choosen for them by their corporate IT department or by
> their Internet access provider.

So?

DNSBLs are bad because most users won't choose it, it will be chosen  
for them.

PPPoE is bad because most users won't choose it, it will be chosen  
for them.

IP is bad because most users won't choose it, it will be chosen for  
them.


Choice still exists.  People who abdicate their choice, either  
through laziness, ignorance, other willful choices (e.g. employment),  
etc., are still making a choice.  You cannot say something is  
horrible because they do not check every individual computer that  
might in some way be affected.

Put another way, if you run a large network, I guarantee you make  
choices every day that affect your users.  Do you check with each one  
of them?

I didn't think so.

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TTFN,
patrick