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Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism


From: Michael.Dillon () btradianz com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:24:36 +0100


What most people participating in this subthread seem to be missing is 
that 
if one did decide to send (or accidentally sent) false time to these 
D-Link 
devices, NOBODY WOULD EVER KNOW OR CARE.  Doing so does not solve any 
problems, so whatever the legal risk of acting is, no matter how small, 
it's 
not worth it.

But there is a larger issue of NTP abuse here that needs
a coordinated technical and legal approach. I suggest that
if you are going to operate a public NTP server you should
also run a web server at the same IP address and publish
your terms of service. If you have given public advance notice
of what constitutes normal use, and what constitutes abuse,
then you are on stronger legal ground. And if you state that
those abusing the service will be disconnected by sending
a KoD packet, and that users who persist after the KoD 
packet will receive a jittered time signal (or delayed
or whatever), then you are on even stronger legal ground.

Of course, you should always consult your lawyer on the
legalities, but it helps your lawyer if you have a 
clear and well-thought out approach to present to him.

This thread has had a lot of good info about NTP best 
practices so I consider it worthwhile, even if most of
the responses were tangential to the original issue.

--Michael Dillon


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