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Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant"
From: Joe Provo <nanog-post () rsuc gweep net>
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 08:11:05 -0500
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 05:25:40AM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote: [snip]
But I think Mr. Stephenson's point was a network bottleneck is not always based on the access link speed some ISPs put in their advertising. Just go to any ISP user forum and you will see long threads complaining they can only download X Mbps from site Y in city Z. The bottleneck may be the remove server, a peering interconnect, a backbone link, a city router, etc. On the other hand, its not a good idea to generalize because other users in other cities may get better performance from other sites.
Bing. With the dayjob hat of a high speed access provider, we get no end of issues on everything from end-users not "getting their full speed" due to loacl or remote using 802.11b or lousy TCP implementations (untuned win98) or the like. These occur just as often as remote hosts on a DS1 or swamped 10M access, etc.
That's not to say things are static, and will never change. If you listen to Stephenson's presentation, he says access link speeds will increase, as well as the backbone capacity will increase. For financial analysts, the foreseeable future is the next quarter's financial results. Next year is long term. Two years is an eternity.
This also bears repeating. The investment community's timescale is dramatically different than that of the decisionmakers for capital spending in most companies. Joe -- RSUC / GweepNet / Spunk / FnB / Usenix / SAGE
Current thread:
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Sean Donelan (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" David Lesher (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Randy Bush (Apr 02)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Michael . Dillon (Apr 03)
- Listen to all the companies spin (was Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant") Sean Donelan (Apr 03)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Randy Bush (Apr 02)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Joe Provo (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Daniel Senie (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Sean Donelan (Apr 01)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Marshall Eubanks (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Jon Lewis (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Edward B. DREGER (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Robert Boyle (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Jon Lewis (Apr 01)
- RE: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Frank Bulk (Apr 01)
- RE: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Edward B. DREGER (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Simon Lockhart (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Marshall Eubanks (Apr 01)
- RE: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Edward B. DREGER (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" David Lesher (Apr 01)