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Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism
From: Paul Vixie <vixie () vix com>
Date: 11 Apr 2006 21:37:33 +0000
I've said in other forums the only solution for this sort of software is to return the wrong time (by several months). The owner might actually notice then and fix the problem.
that creates new liability, and isn't realistic in today's litigious world.
(Suprise to read that from PV.)
Why? It may be the voice of experience. ...
Because its DIX ressources... They can do whatever they want with it.
actually, not. who owns the resources isn't as important, to a judge, as whether someone is damaged and whether that damage resulted from an intentional act. the "voice of experience", if i have one, says that if DIX wants to cease providing this service they can do so safely, but if they decide to deliberately return the wrong time, and if that wrong time costs or loses somebody else some money, then a judge would take it seriously. again, denying service (assuming there's no explicit contract to provide it) is unquestionably safe. i was responding to the proposal that the wrong time be deliberately returned. you'd be betting that nobody would notice or that it would cost nobody money -- which isn't a safe bet, since someone can always find ways to allege that your intentional actions cost them money. (as opposed to your deliberate inaction, as in the case of denying service.) note, IANAL. but i've been sued by experts, and even stupid lawsuits cost a lot to answer/defend, and not all stupid lawsuits are provably frivolous. -- Paul Vixie
Current thread:
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism, (continued)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Simon Lyall (Apr 10)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Paul Vixie (Apr 10)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Simon Lyall (Apr 10)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Matt Ghali (Apr 10)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Matthew Black (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Joe Maimon (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Matt Ghali (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Alain Hebert (Apr 10)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Joseph S D Yao (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Alain Hebert (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Paul Vixie (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Alain Hebert (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism M. David Leonard (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Tony Finch (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Robert E . Seastrom (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Alain Hebert (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Martin Hannigan (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Steve Sobol (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Alain Hebert (Apr 12)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 11)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Mike Tancsa (Apr 11)