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Re: router worms and International Infrastructure


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:34:38 -0400

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:17:25 +0200, Gadi Evron said:
And that's something I will drink to every day. What has happened with 
it since?

Exactly.

a) I'll be collecting a pension and not really caring before it happens.

b) We have a curious patchwork of laws foisted upon us, from various state,
province, and country governments.

In either case, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for something workable
to show up - that's a long time to spend being an odd shade of blue....

There are solutions that don't have to be based on legislation. I don't 
have all the answers but acknowledging the problems is something that 
should be done.

See likely outcome (a). Keep in mind that the problem isn't the providers that
already do altruistic things like BCP38, actually reading their abuse@ mailbox,
and dealing with zombied users.

Said solution will have to deal effectively with the problematic providers.  And
quite frankly, if they haven't gotten the ROI message regarding cleaning house *yet*,
they're unlikely to do it unless "Do it or go to jail/other penalties" happens.

To stem the usual flood of tired suggestions, I'd recommend *not* following up
with "If we all did XYZ" unless you have in fact gotten at least one problem
provider (whom you were *not* employed by at the time) to implement XYZ.

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