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Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?)
From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () cs columbia edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:36:24 -0400
In message <20050914232747.GD23815 () core center osis gov>, Joseph S D Yao writes :
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:09:54PM -0700, Dave Crocker wrote:
I think the mail gateways back when the various networks were being put together into an internet had as their functional purpose unifying disparate networks. On the contrary, a firewall has as its purpose partitioning a network that otherwise would not have been. I don't think one will hear from MIT, given that. But Steve and Ches and Dave Presotto at Bell, and Brian Reid and others at DEC, were doing the partitioning thing in the late 1980's and 1990. Right?
Right, but Seastrom is correct. If you read the old TCP/IP Transition Handbook, you'll see that it talks about shutting off connectivity to MILNET and running mailbridges instead. What's unclear to me is how much of that was every built, but the intent was quite clear. I regard that as the first TCP/IP application firewall, vintage around 1981. --Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
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- mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?), (continued)
- mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) william(at)elan.net (Sep 13)
- mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) Roy Badami (Sep 13)
- Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) william(at)elan.net (Sep 13)
- Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) Adam McKenna (Sep 13)
- Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) Crist Clark (Sep 13)
- Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) Steven M. Bellovin (Sep 13)
- Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) Dave Crocker (Sep 13)
- Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) Joseph S D Yao (Sep 14)
- Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) Robert E . Seastrom (Sep 14)
- Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) Joseph S D Yao (Sep 15)
- Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) Steven M. Bellovin (Sep 14)
- Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) Joseph S D Yao (Sep 13)
- Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?) Tony Finch (Sep 14)
- Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response? Christian Kuhtz (Sep 13)
- Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response? william(at)elan.net (Sep 13)
- Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 13)
- Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response? Christian Kuhtz (Sep 13)
- Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response? Randy Bush (Sep 13)
- Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response? Michael . Dillon (Sep 14)