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Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?


From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy () center osis gov>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:58:38 -0400


On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:54:03PM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message <20050913212312.GM16110 () core center osis gov>, Joseph S D Yao writes
:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 04:56:58PM -0400, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 04:28:41PM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
...
Telnet options, and for that matter speed, happen after the 3-way 
handshake.  We're not getting that far.

         --Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

Steve, I defer to your expertise, as always.  ;-]


Nevertheless ... I went looking for comments on how this was being done,
and found the following specualtion by a small number of different
people.

"SEF [is] unique in that it can detect what appear to be telnet
connections to Port 25 and drop the connection. This is probably because
telnet connections send one character at a time whereas real SMTP
clients send all the strings at once."

This would not require the 3WH, ISTM.

Sure it would -- until the 3-way handshake, there's no application data 
flowing, and hence no characters being sent one at a time.

Right.  Doh.  Me go home lie down rest.

We'll leave to another mailing list the question of what security 
benefit there is to such a feature...

;-)

-- 
Joe Yao
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