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Re: Katrina Network Damage Report
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () darkwing uoregon edu>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:08:45 -0700 (PDT)
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
On 9/11/05, Alan Spicer <a_spicer () bellsouth net> wrote:love IPv6 more than you guys would ever give to a sole. Shoot I could run a big ISP on a single 48. God bless America.Instead, you have small end sites getting /48s from tunnel providers, and then running maybe two or three hosts on those. And seriously, does the main assumption of v6, that every single toaster out there is going to become a v6 host, really not scare anyone?
It doesn't scare us... ever try nmaping a /48?Instead of toasters, though which I think of as hyperbole, possibly because my toster is ~40 years old, and still works fine thanks, think digital set-top boxes and tv's that need bi-directional communication to unwrap drm, That's order of a billion or so devices in the US over the next 10 years.
Giving IP connectivity to stuff that was just not designed from a security point of view .. I'm sure people have seen all the stories about network printers and electron microscopes running open relay smtp daemons, so when do I get to see a botnet full of compromised toasters that'll burn your toast to cinders if you try to disinfect them?
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Current thread:
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report, (continued)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Alan Spicer (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Alan Spicer (Sep 11)
- Re: Lack of addresses outside US myth, was: Katrina Network Damage Report Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 12)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Scott A Crosby (Sep 13)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 13)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Joel Jaeggli (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 11)
- routing around the Katrina Network Damage Report bmanning (Sep 11)
- Re: routing around the Katrina Network Damage Report Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 11)
- Re: routing around the Katrina Network Damage Report bmanning (Sep 11)
- Re: routing around the Katrina Network Damage Report Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Joel Jaeggli (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Dave Stewart (Sep 11)