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RE: Tidbit from DirectNIC


From: "Irwin Lazar" <ILazar () burtongroup com>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 18:54:05 -0600


Per http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475927/posts the
firefighters are taking sniper fire and have barracaded themselves
inside the building.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Michael Greb
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:16 PM
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: Tidbit from DirectNIC


On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:54:10AM -0400, Steven Champeon wrote:
on Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:44:49PM +0100, Michael.Dillon () btradianz com
wrote:
-----snip-----
Fox News is reporting that there is an operation underway to refill 
chillers at the Bell South building down the street to keep phone
service 
available to much of the southeast United States. That is apparently
where 
all the firetrucks are going to in the area, in case you were
wondering.
-----snip-----

It is interesting to note that it is possible to bring in diesel and
water 
to resupply BellSouth yet it is impossible to bring in water and
food for 
the residents, not to mention a fleet of small boats that could have

prevented thousands from dying trapped inside their attics.

1) potable water is probably somewhat different from the water used in
   chillers or fire trucks

2) phone service is, IMHO, one helpful pre-requisite to providing
   emergency care and disaster relief

Last year after Ivan phone service played no roll in emergency care or
disaster relief.  Ham Radio operators, myself included, were stationed
at each shelter, the Red Cross and Salvation Army command centers, the
county EOC, hospitals, and some assigned to shadow important people such
as the mayor whereever they went.  Every agency participating had a
presence at the county EOC.  When an ambulance was needed at a shelter,
it was called for via ham radio, an operator at the EOC passed the
message
to the ambulance dispatcher in the same room, they called the ambulance
out.

Those in their home and not in a shelter had no way to call for help but
the city and county themselves did not rely on phone service for
anything.  This is why the federal government gives so much valuable
radio spectrum to Ham Radio, more then any other service, the principal
purpose of Ham Radio is to provide emergency communications in times of
need.

 
3) the pictures I've been seeing have been full of boats, many of them
   thrown up on land a few hundred feet from their berths

Not saying that the utter failure of DHS as an organization isn't on
evidence here. Just saying that it's one thing to feed and water a
plant
and quite another to feed and water a human being, let alone tens of
thousands of them.
 
Michael Greb


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