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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering
From: Joe Abley <jabley () isc org>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:37:14 -0400
On 6-Oct-2005, at 19:38, Schliesser, Benson wrote:
Customers don't want to pay for a "stochastic set of relationships", they will pay for the "Internet" however.
What is "Internet"? Let's channel Seth Breidbart briefly and call it the largest equivalence class in the reflexive transitive symmetric closure of the relationship "can be reached by an IP packet from". It should be clear that the nature and extent of this network depends very much on the perspective of the connected device from which is it measured.
It's like paying for a telephone that could only call a subset of the world's telephone users.
... which is precisely what every telephone service you can buy in the world gives you, to varying degrees.
Do people in Spain complain that they can't call numbers starting with +350, and insist on getting money back from their monthly bill? Or do they accept that their government has an ongoing dispute with the UK over whether Gibraltar is in fact part of Spain?
Joe
Current thread:
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering), (continued)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering) Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 08)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering) William Allen Simpson (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering) Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 08)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 07)
- RE: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) David Schwartz (Oct 08)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 08)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) Paul Vixie (Oct 09)
- RE: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) David Schwartz (Oct 10)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) William B. Norton (Oct 10)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) Paul Vixie (Oct 10)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Jay Adelson (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Joe Maimon (Oct 07)