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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering
From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve () telecomplete co uk>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 15:29:13 +0100 (BST)
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, tony sarendal wrote:
On 06/10/05, Stephen J. Wilcox <steve () telecomplete co uk> wrote:On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, tony sarendal wrote:Is being a tier-1 now a good or bad sales argument when selling internet access ?its the same as it always was, its a marketing positive. but thats because the market is dumb. if you wish to make your purchasing decision on 'tier-1' status thats up to you, but i'll be looking at performance, price, strategy, service level and what type of supplier i want for a company like mine. cogent is cheap and you get what you pay for. level3 is mid-price, but they really dont care much about their customers (or thats what i found). perhaps you want better customer service or to deal with a smaller company to gain their attention and respect.I didn't mean for this to sound so much like a question, but I belive I posted before my first cup of coffee. This is not the first and certainly not the last time we see this kind of event happen. Purchasing a single-homed service from a Tier-1 provider will guarantee that you are affected by this every time it happens. Now, is being a tier-1 now a good or bad sales argument when selling internet access ?
how would purchasing from a tier-2 be any different (and by historical definition cogent is a tier-2), i've seen networks intentionally block routes from competitors for various reasons, and ultimately this is about your level of connectivity to the parts of the Internet anyone can have connectivity issues either by choice or by accident, you have to decide whether your chosen supplier is giving you a service level you are happy with for the price, what the risks are and what failure modes they are likely to present. Steve
Current thread:
- RE: Cogent/Level 3 depeering, (continued)
- RE: Cogent/Level 3 depeering David Schwartz (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering tony sarendal (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Golding (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Randy Bush (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Golding (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering tony sarendal (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering tony sarendal (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Golding (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Todd Vierling (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Senie (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering John Payne (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Paul Vixie (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Tony Li (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Paul Vixie (Oct 08)