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Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies
From: Florian Weimer <fw () deneb enyo de>
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:19:11 +0100
* Michael Dillon:
How would you feel about having the registries serve as the root of a hierarchical certificate system?What about the swamp space?Presumably if the users of class C blocks in the swamp
The class B assignments are even more interesting because some of them have been split (with or without the consent of the original assignee).
want to use the certficate services that the registry provides then the registries would sell that service for some reasonable fee.
Which registry? In many cases, there are two natural choices.
Some people labor under the misunderstanding that users of swamp space actually "own" IP addresses and therefore have the right to not pay anybody for anything at anytime. However, since "ownership" is a legal concept and since IP address ownership has never been tested in the courts, it is a moot point.
I can't follow your argument. You seem to be saying that we should not worry *because* we enter uncharted legal terrain. This attitude is completely alien to me.
Do you suppose that if a Microsoft salesman had given me a free copy of Windows back in 1990, I would have a right to use any version of Windows for free forever?
I guess I had the right to use that version of Windows forever. Software is not a good example because life cycles are so much shorter. But no one is really comfortable with retroactively revoking software licenses, and it's often impossible because of first sales doctrine, special copyright regulations (especially in European countries), antitrust regulations etc.
Current thread:
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security), (continued)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security) Randy Bush (Nov 23)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security) Andre Oppermann (Nov 23)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security) Steven J. Sobol (Nov 22)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security) Randy Bush (Nov 22)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security) Steven J. Sobol (Nov 22)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies Florian Weimer (Nov 24)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 25)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies Florian Weimer (Nov 26)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies Michael . Dillon (Nov 25)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies Florian Weimer (Nov 25)
- RE: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies Matthew Kaufman (Nov 25)
- RE: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security) william(at)elan.net (Nov 22)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security) Randy Bush (Nov 23)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security) George Michaelson (Nov 23)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security) Steven M. Bellovin (Nov 23)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security) william(at)elan.net (Nov 23)
- Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security) George Michaelson (Nov 23)