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Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?"


From: David Barak <thegameiam () yahoo com>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:39:32 -0800 (PST)




--- JC Dill <lists05 () equinephotoart com> wrote:


David Barak wrote:

--- Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:

Is that still true if the "adequate" service is
being provided at a price which is two to three
times what it should be costing and the provider
is
enjoying the ability to do this because nobody  
else is in the market space?

I'm confused.  Earlier in this thread you were
arguing
that the current providers were keeping priced
artificially LOW.

They are keeping prices artificially low now, to
drive out the 
competition.  They will raise prices once they have
no competition, as 
monopoly companies always have done in the past.

Standard free market behavior is for a large company
to cut prices (when 
they can, when they have income from some other
source to afford this 
tactic) to drive the competition out of business. 
Then once they have a 
monopoly to raise prices (and thus profits).  Check
out the price for 
Microsoft software over the years.  As their
products each became a de 
facto monopoly in their market the prices went WAY
up.  

Windows 98 price (in 1997) -> $209
Office 97 Standard (in 1997) -> $689 
Windows XP price (now) -> $199.
Office 2003 (now) -> $399.

Want to try that again?

The problems most people have with microsoft's
monopoly status have nothing whatsoever to do with the
price of the software which forms the basis of their
monopoly (windows + office), but rather their
willingness to use the profits from them to subsidize
other losing ventures to drive out other competitors.

The argument regarding ILECs is reversed.  I
appreciate the citation of Standard Oil, but it is a
fallacy to think that there is a one-to-one mapping
between SO and any/all of the ILECs.  

Assertions that "monopolies do X and they're bad, and
we know that Y will eventually do bad because they're
a monopoly" are circular.


David Barak
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