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Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]
From: Christian Kuhtz <kuhtzch () corp earthlink net>
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:12:35 -0500
On Nov 12, 2005, at 8:03 PM, Tom Vest wrote:
On Nov 12, 2005, at 6:48 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:Are you suggesting a return to cost-based regulation? At one time airlineprices were regulated based on air mile distance.No, I'm not, actually I think that the answer to my question was: "All bits cost the same to push inside 'my' network" (where 'my' is really anysingle entities network, and the cost is for that entity).Is cost-based regulation so bad for critical, non-substitutable infrastructure? That's how the US market got flat-rate Internet access.
Are you trolling?Cost-based regulation is pure evil. It creates a managed economy with short term benefit and long term pains, because over time the cost of goods should decrease as tooling improves. Yet, it doesn't because in a managed economy there are no or very few incentives to improve tooling and pass the results on to the consumer.
There's no reason why a free market can't produce the same result without gov't regulation. Tariffs are not good for consumers in the long run.
Flat rate's an inside joke anyway. People generally only consume x amount, even if you open the spigot all day long, every day. Flat rate pricing very much keeps that in mind. Figure out what x is, price accordingly and voila.
It's amazing how many people fall for simple marketing devices. But to see people proclaim we need more regulation to get some marketing product... There is no such thing as a free lunch.
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- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?", (continued)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Steve Sobol (Nov 26)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Steve Sobol (Nov 27)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Deepak Jain (Nov 26)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Sean Donelan (Nov 27)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Henry Yen (Nov 30)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) Marshall Eubanks (Nov 16)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Bill Stewart (Nov 14)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Christopher L. Morrow (Nov 12)
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- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Tom Vest (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Christian Kuhtz (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Tom Vest (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Sean Donelan (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Christopher L. Morrow (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Owen DeLong (Nov 10)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Gordon Cook (Nov 11)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Stephen Sprunk (Nov 17)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Sean Donelan (Nov 17)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Todd Vierling (Nov 18)