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Re: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a few years?


From: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex () relcom net>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 00:29:08 -0700




So imagine a residential area all pulling digital video over wireless.
Sound familiar? Ironically close to TV! (yet so different)

What I can't understand is why multicast hasn't just gone gangbusters into
use yet. I see it as a really pent-up capability that, in light of
Because multicast standards was written by academic idiots. -:) Very
difficult to use and full of unused features.

(Do not believe? Read RSVP protocol - not exactly multicast but not far away
from it).

And because multicast protocols (unfortunately) are not easy to implement.
It excuse this standards and their authors.

I can predict one more 'skype' like company, with really robust protocol,
catching multicast market. Something like 'peer to peer multicast' -:).




broadband video, etc., is just going to have to break wide open soon.

Joe




                      Ross Hosman
                      <rosshosman              To:      Steve Sobol
<sjsobol () JustThe net>, Fred Heutte <aoxomoxoa () sunlightdata com>
                      @yahoo.com>              cc:      nanog () nanog org
                      Sent by:                 Subject: Re: what will all
you who work for private isp's be doing in a few years?
                      owner-nanog


                      05/12/2005 02:16
                      PM







Not pointing any fingers but many of you think these
small ISP's are just going to die off instead of
adapt. Wireless is becoming a better and more reliable
technology that in the future will be able to provide
faster service then FTTH. I know of atleast one small
ISP in Michigan that went from dial-up to deploying
wireless. With WiMAX coming out I think you will see a
number of smaller ISPs switching to it as a service.
It is also much cheaper to deploy a wireless network.

Me personally, I think wireless is the future for
residential internet/tv/phone.

Ross Hosman
Charter Communcations

--- Steve Sobol <sjsobol () JustThe net> wrote:

Fred Heutte wrote:
(1) There will be a market for independent ISPs as
long CLECs

I think a more appropriate term would be ALEC

(anti-competitive local exchange carrier)

...That having been said, the problem with the small
guys providing access is
they can't generally achieve the economies of scale
that allow them to compete
with the big guys.

I'm on a Charter cablemodem, 3mbps down x 256kbps
up, $39.95/month. Verizon is
building out FTTH in this area and they're going to
be offering 5x2 for $39.95
or 10x5 for $49.95, IIRC. Those are all residential
prices, but Charter's
actually pretty competitive on business rates too.

And yes, there are people who value service over
price, but the price
differential is only going to get worse.


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