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Re: NTIA will control the root name servers?
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:54:45 -0400
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 12:41:23 EDT, Ted Fischer said:
Go read this: http://65.246.255.51/rfc/rfc3675.txt And ask yourself (a) why did that URL work at all, and (b) whether censoring via top-level domain is likely to work.As an interesting side note, my e-mail client (Eudora) helpfully popped up the following message when checking the above URL: "The host, http://65.246.255.52/rfc/rfc3675.txt, is a numerical IP address; most legitimate sites use names, not addresses."
Of course, if you're a subversive visiting the site *because* somebody with jackbooted thugs has censored the DNS, said site probably isn't considered "legitimate" by those in power.... And it's a hopeless task - blocking by DNS isn't workable, and even blocking problematic sites by IP isn't workable. It's pretty easy to show that if you allow *any* traffic at all, there's covert channels available. Just take the bandwidth of the pipe, treat the censorship as "noise" (the more heavy-handed, the noiser), and work out the Shannon limit....
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- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? John Levine (Jul 02)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jul 02)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? John Palmer (NANOG Acct) (Jul 02)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jul 02)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? Peter Dambier (Jul 03)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jul 03)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? Robert E . Seastrom (Jul 03)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 03)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? codewarrior (Jul 03)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? Ted Fischer (Jul 03)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 03)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jul 02)
- Re: NTIA will control the root name servers? John Levine (Jul 02)