Re: Destructive botnet originating from Japan

["Rubens Kuhl Jr." <rubensk () gmail com>]

The first rule of nsp-sec is, you do not talk about nsp-sec
The second rule of nsp-sec is, you DO NOT talk about nsp-sec


Rubens


On 12/25/05, Hannigan, Martin <hannigan () verisign com> wrote:
> What's nsp-sec?
>
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>  From:   Richard A Steenbergen [mailto:ras () e-gerbil net]
>  Sent:   Sun Dec 25 04:25:15 2005
>  To:     Gadi Evron
>  Cc:     Rob Thomas; NANOG
>  Subject:        Re: Destructive botnet originating from Japan
>
>
>  On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 02:06:38AM -0600, Gadi Evron wrote:
>  >
>  > It is difficult to hear something important that one invested much in is
>  > doing harm, but that is the only conclusion I and others can come up with
>  > after years of study, and NSP-SEC, as amazing as it has been, has been of
>  > a negative impact other than to cause a community to form and act
>  > together. Which is amazing by itself and which is why I believe it
>  > can do so much more.. even if it is relatively young it has proven
>  > itself time and time again... I am straying from the subject here.
>
>  Could have told you that a long time ago. NSP-SEC became useless the day
>  it became so bogged down in its own self-aggrandizing paranoia that no one
>  could possibly be bothered to actually tell anyone outside of the secret
>  handshake club about security issues they've spotted.
>
>  On the other hand, if you ARE going to sit around pissing and moaning
>  about botnets you are too "sekure" to tell anyone else about, thus
>  assuring they never get fixed, at least it's nice to do it in one secret
>  place so I don't have to hear it. :)
>
>  --
>  Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net>       http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras
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