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Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger
From: Sean Figgins <sean () labrats us>
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:51:17 -0600 (MDT)
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Jared Mauch wrote:
I once spoke to a construction manager at comcast for their network buildouts. With my local township, they need to have 20 homes per linear mile along the route to justify a build. While my street has 11 homes, and 3 adjacent (where my private road meets the main road) there are an insufficent number of homes along the route to reach here.
Given it is Comcast, it appears that they are not interested. I know that some companies will do it if you pay for part of the construction. Of course, if it is just you, you probably would not want to foot the bill. Now, if the neighbors all pitched in, it would be more affordable. And don't even get me started about "homes passed" and "subscriber uptake" rates. Given that most companies really have no idea where their plant is, or the actual number of homes passed, it's all a number's shell game.
They also won't go more than 150' out of the way/on your property due to concern about signal loss.
What they say, anyways. I'm not into plant construction, so I can not say for certain what the signal loss is over 150 foot. I would guess that it is more of an excuse, rather than an explanation. Also, the local markets are on the hook for P&L (generally speaking), so they would not want to build something that would not have immediate payback.
I've considered running my own conduit/fiber loop on the street with my other neighbors and providing that as a carrot to lower the cost for their network builds. I've been meaning to call the construction manager back and ask if this would get them to reconsider as well as a few of the nearby projects that will likely bring their plant slightly closer to me.
What was the distance? I am thinking that they probably would want to avoid using your fiber/conduit. Probably the only way to get them to reconsider is cold, hard cash. A sales guy of mine has been quoted a dollar amount to build to his property, along with the 4-5 neighbors. But, I think he might be able to get it built for free now, after waiting for 3 years. We'll see what happens. I really imagine that the "broadband penetration" publications are, like most things, manipulated to prove your point, whatever that might be. -Sean
Current thread:
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger, (continued)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Chris Boyd (Aug 23)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 23)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Gary E. Miller (Aug 23)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Daniel Senie (Aug 23)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Michael Painter (Aug 23)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 23)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Lewis Butler (Aug 24)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Joe Abley (Aug 24)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Sean Figgins (Aug 24)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Jared Mauch (Aug 24)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Sean Figgins (Aug 24)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger John Levine (Aug 25)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 25)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger John Levine (Aug 25)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Jared Mauch (Aug 25)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 26)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Daniel Golding (Aug 24)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Joe Abley (Aug 24)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Joel Jaeggli (Aug 24)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Simon Waters (Aug 25)
- Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger Randy Bush (Aug 24)