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Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen () sprunk org>
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:59:46 -0500
Thus spake "John Levine" <johnl () iecc com>
Face it, 7D is dead; and even if overlays had not arrived, cell phones would have killed it. Once you learn to think 10D, it's trivial.Oh, you ignorant rednecks.* Even my cell phone has 7D dialing and it'll be a century before overlays arrive where I live.
Great. Store 7D numbers in your phone's directory and drive a few hours in any direction; see if they still work. _That_ is why mobile phones are killing off 7D, not because of dialing patterns or overlays.
I really appreciate not having the insane Texas plan where you have to memorize every single local prefix to be able to make a fripping phone call.
When you have seven nearby area codes (like I do), and parts of each of them can be local or toll, there's no hope of memorizing prefixes. You guess based on the distance, and you either get through or a recording tells you that you guessed wrong. If you thought a number was local and it turns out to be toll, that may make you think twice about whether you need to find a closer number or perhaps not talk as long.
I find it to be nuts that some places have 7D toll calls and 11D local calls; how can you have any clue what (if anything) you're paying without calling the operator?
Back before CLECs, SWB's phone books had a map with the prefixes assigned to each exchange and rules to determine if a call was local or toll. Now, with ten times as many prefixes per exchange (and several possible area codes for each) and new prefixes being added every week, that's simply not practical anymore.
S Stephen Sprunk "Those people who think they know everything CCIE #3723 are a great annoyance to those of us who do."K5SSS --Isaac Asimov
Current thread:
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls, (continued)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Robert Bonomi (Aug 18)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls David Barak (Aug 18)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls David Lesher (Aug 18)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls John Levine (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Steven M. Bellovin (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Stephen Sprunk (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Steven J. Sobol (Aug 19)
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- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Jay R. Ashworth (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls David Barak (Aug 18)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Robert Bonomi (Aug 18)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Andre Oppermann (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Jared Mauch (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Stephen Sprunk (Aug 19)
- centrist... bmanning (Aug 19)
- Re: centrist... Barry Shein (Aug 19)
- Re: centrist... Richard A Steenbergen (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Todd Vierling (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls John Levine (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Jeff Shultz (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Barry Shein (Aug 19)
- Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls Eric A. Hall (Aug 19)