nanog mailing list archives

Re: Slashdot: Providers Ignoring DNS TTL?


From: "Robert M. Enger" <enger () comcast net>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:40:50 -0400



Steinar:

There is a large body of work from competent and well known
researchers that assert the claim.  I certainly lack standing to question their results.

Empirically, download speeds to home are nearly cut in half (18Mbps) from sources
that are subjected to packet reordering along the path.  

More to the point however, I note that Jay is the author of RFC2100.
I think he's just having a little bit of fun.  My apologies for belaboring the performance issue.

Bob



At 04:23 PM 4/24/2005, sthaug () nethelp no wrote:
In your note below you speak of 'moving on to something else' when
PPLB comes.

PPLB destabilizes TCP.  It elicits erroneous retransmissions,
squanders capacity and lowers performance.

I would actually dispute this. I agree that PPLB will *occasionally*
lead to out-of-order packets, which will lead to lower TCP performance
*when it happens*. To many customers this is acceptable as long as PPLB
gives them improved performance *most of the time*. And this is what we
saw very clearly at my previous employer - PPLB worked very well, and
gave clearly increased performance, *most of the time*.

As mentioned in another message, I don't really believe PPLB is coming.
Instead I believe PPLB is something which is probably being *less* used
now than a few years ago, since other link bundling methods are more
easily available now (than they were a few years ago) - and these link
bundling methods occur at a layer below TCP, and are invisible to TCP
(no packet reordering problems).

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug () nethelp no


Current thread: