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Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast...
From: Alex Rubenstein <alex () nac net>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:07:40 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
I personally still don't like the stability of SBC's PPPOE implementations and tunnels. I prefer Verizon's setup much more.
I am not sure what Verizon you are talking about, but the Verizon in my area (aka Bell Atlantic, aka New Jersey Bell) (at least used to) have, for some reason, have a cat 5000 in between us and the DSLAM. We see about 27 or so PVC's for the whole state. Verizon refers to these PVC's as PVC's to each 'switch.' Conjecture is that there is some insane type of LANE and god knows what going on. You run PPPOE over this, and in some limited cases, it's stable.
Sprint (aka United Telephone) in our area (northern NJ), IMHO, does things 'right', or at least best of all the players we've dealt with through the years. They provide a L2TP tunnel to you over an ATM-IP link, which the other end of is on a Redback SMS of sorts. You see all of your clients as PPPoEoL2TP. As hackery as it sounds, it works and is quite stable.
Yes, many LECs under your feet is interesting. Within 100 miles of our office, we have more than I can even think of (Verizon-NJ Bell, Verizon-NYNEX, Verizon-PA, Verizon-GTE, Sprint/United, Warwick Valley Telephone, SBC-SNET, Citizens-Frontier, RCI-Frontier.
-- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex () nac net, latency, Al Reuben Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net
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- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Jeff Rosowski (Apr 18)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Alex Rubenstein (Apr 18)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Jared Mauch (Apr 18)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Andy Johnson (Apr 18)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Christopher L. Morrow (Apr 18)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... just me (Apr 18)
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- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Jay R. Ashworth (Apr 19)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Chris Woodfield (Apr 23)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Alex Rubenstein (Apr 19)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Jason Slagle (Apr 19)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Matt Taber (Apr 19)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Bill Stewart (Apr 24)