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Re: Disappointment at DENIC over Poor Rating in .net Procedure


From: Bill Woodcock <woody () pch net>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:33:56 -0800 (PST)


    > a.nic.de is with RIPE in Amsterdam
    > f.nic.de and z.nic.de are in Frankfurt
    > c.de.net. is with Savvis in Santa Clara
    > s.de.net is with Deutsche Telekom in Germany
    > l.de.net I see over Mediaways/Telefonica DE in London (what a poor choice, scary)

For what it's worth, a highly scientific measurement from my house in 
Berkeley, the authoritative location for all quantitative evaluation of 
the Internet, using secret proprietary round-trip latency-measurement 
tools...

    a.nic.de, 100 packets, 7% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 163.454/199.368/494.708 ms

    c.de.net, 100 packets, 2% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 15.071/46.131/724.957 ms

    z.nic.de, 100 packets, 3% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 180.9/222.723/578.468 ms

    s.de.net, 100 packets, 0% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 184.26/219.786/501.547 ms

    l.de.net, 100 packets, 1% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 170.435/211.573/568.7 ms

    f.nic.de, 100 packets, 5% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 171.717/206.826/489.947 ms

Overall for DENIC: 3% loss and 15ms / 166ms / 725ms min/avg/max latency.
c.de.net is the one I'd be using, and it gives 2% loss and 46ms latency.

    a.gtld.biz, 100 packets, 1% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 91.234/122.828/504.932 ms

    b.gtld.biz, 100 packets, 2% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 84.284/113.632/391.781 ms

    c.gtld.biz, 100 packets, 0% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 11.425/34.311/351.397 ms

    d.gtld.biz, 100 packets, 3% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 151.251/189.494/592.378 ms

    e.gtld.biz, 100 packets, 8% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 183.608/222.593/571.288 ms

    f.gtld.biz, 100 packets, 4% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 191.292/220.594/501.575 ms

    g.gtld.biz, 100 packets, 0% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 73.427/98.744/272.382 ms

    h.gtld.biz, 100 packets, 0% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 11.389/17.377/62.261 ms

Overall for Sentan: 2% loss and 11ms / 127ms / 592ms min/avg/max latency.
h.gtld.biz is the one I'd be using, and it gives 0% loss and 17ms latency.

    a2.nstld.com, 100 packets, 0% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 75.234/105.418/428.176 ms

    c2.nstld.com, 100 packets, 9% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 74.604/99.534/355.924 ms

    d2.nstld.com, 100 packets, 1% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 106.717/144.679/459.303 ms

    e2.nstld.com, 100 packets, 0% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 24.709/63.391/602.586 ms

    f2.nstld.com, 100 packets, 34% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 30.717/65.595/365.876 ms

    g2.nstld.com, 100 packets, 1% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 14.06/61.24/380.896 ms

    l2.nstld.com, 100 packets, 1% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max = 72.493/112.227/852.949 ms

Overall for Verisign: 7% loss and 14ms / 93ms / 852ms min/avg/max latency.
g2.nstld.com is the one I'd be using, and it gives 1% loss and 61ms latency.


This was just a test of the root DNS measurement system.  Had this been a 
real measurement of the root DNS system, it would have been conducted by 
Nevil Brownlee, from his house in Auckland.


                                -Bill


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