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Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts
From: abuse () cabal org uk (Peter Corlett)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 19:50:11 +0000 (UTC)
Paul Vixie <vixie () vix com> wrote: [...]
however, and this is the important part so everybody please pay attention, if you can junk something "without hesitation," then spammers will stop sending that kind of "something." they make their money on clickthroughs, final sales, and referrals, which translates to one thing and one thing only: "volume." if the way to keep their volume up means "put SPF metadata in for the domains they use" or even just "stop forging mail from domains that have SPF metadata" then that is exactly what they will do. guaranteed.
Cool, fewer double-bounces implicating me as the source of spam. I'll take that, ta. [...]
i lost that bet during my MAPS years. your mileage may vary, but to me, SPF is just a way to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Well, I for one would really really like to thank you for the MAPS RBL. It may not have been a permanent solution, but it made the difference while it still worked. If ever you have the misfortune to find yourself in this arse end of Britain, please do claim a pint ;)
we won't have decent interpersonal batch digital communications again before whitelists; everything we do in the mean time is just a way to prove that to the public so they'll be willing to live with the high cost of fully distributing trust.
As a poor bastard who seems to be BOFHing for an ISP "fixing" mail, I can only hope that the future comes up with good ideas in the future that will help with the tsunami. Given the 400% increase in spam that we've seen hitting our "spam solution" in the last 3 months, anything that can make the difference is welcome. For the long term, I really don't know what to do. Becoming a Knuthian email hermit is tempting given I'm getting awfully close to the 15 years myself... -- PGP key ID E85DC776 - finger abuse () mooli org uk for full key
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- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts vijay gill (Sep 08)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Paul Jakma (Sep 08)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts vijay gill (Sep 08)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Stephen J. Wilcox (Sep 08)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Dan Mahoney, System Admin (Sep 08)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Ricardo "Rick" Gonzalez (Sep 08)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Dan Mahoney, System Admin (Sep 08)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Susan Harris (Sep 08)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Paul Vixie (Sep 08)
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- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Peter Corlett (Sep 08)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Stephane Bortzmeyer (Sep 10)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Paul Vixie (Sep 10)
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- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Paul Jakma (Sep 08)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Paul Vixie (Sep 08)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Dan Mahoney, System Admin (Sep 06)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Niels Bakker (Sep 06)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Peter Corlett (Sep 06)
- Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts Richard Welty (Sep 06)