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Re: Fixing stuff (was Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS)
From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:50:10 +0200
But compared to the success rate of the bot writers, the anti-bot tools fall far behind. Some people estimate between 10 million and 30 million
Actually, there are some fine Anti Trojan (AT) tools out there. Try out The Cleaner and BOClean.
new bots have been created this year. That number is probably a bit low,
I'd estimate double that, but heck, I estimated there are drone armies when everybody said there is no such animal in existence... so I don't know about estimations.
Masking infections is only a partial answer. As long as the computer is compromised, it can be taken over again in new ways. Going from fixing a million PCs a year to fixing 30 million (and probably more) PCs a year, needs to move beyond just sending complaints.
It would be a good start.
Why don't people want to fix their computers? And even worse, why are
Want to fix their computers? Try smaller and easier. How about updating AV software, heck - how about INSTALLING AV software?Some say that computers demand a license, much like cars. I'm beginning to agree. It would never happen.
Sorry Grandma, you've just lost all the digital pictures of your grandkids growing up.
Eh? What grandkids? Oh! Those yes. Dementia, sorry. Gadi.
Current thread:
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS, (continued)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Paul Vixie (Oct 07)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Randy Bush (Oct 07)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Paul Vixie (Oct 07)
- RE: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Drew Weaver (Oct 08)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Matthew S. Hallacy (Oct 08)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Gadi Evron (Oct 08)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Matthew S. Hallacy (Oct 08)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Gadi Evron (Oct 08)
- Fixing stuff (was Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS) Sean Donelan (Oct 09)
- Re: Fixing stuff (was Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS) Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 09)
- Re: Fixing stuff (was Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS) Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 09)
- Re: Fixing stuff (was Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS) Gadi Evron (Oct 09)
- Re: Fixing stuff (was Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS) Sean Donelan (Oct 10)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Matthew S. Hallacy (Oct 08)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Ricardo "Rick" Gonzalez (Oct 09)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Andrew D Kirch (Oct 12)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 13)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS David Barak (Oct 13)
- Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS william(at)elan.net (Oct 13)
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