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Re: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...)
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william () elan net>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 07:52:26 -0800 (PST)
Why would nlayer be now using AS4436? It is listed as scruz.net, but as far as I remember scruz was taken overy by DSL.NET (I think that even included their peering agreements) and some of their ip block such as 204.139.8.0/21, 204.147.224.0/20 and others certainly seem to confirm that. As far as AS4474, it has been well known to have been original ASN nlayer used, but it turned out to have been hijacked (done through domain reregistration), the real 'global village' is long ago gone - they were making modems and taken over by Boca Research and now I think its all part of Zoom, the only modem company that survived the .bomb. This ASN was discussed on hijacked-l about year ago and somebody thereafter reported it to ARIN (or ARIN may have done it on their own having been present there) and marked it as invalid. I thought that after this incident Nlayer would not try to go after another low-number ASN and would actually use their real arin assigned AS30371, but even 9 months after the ASN was marked invalid, they still continue to use it... [whois.arin.net] OrgName: Santa Cruz Community Internei (scruz-net) OrgID: SCCI Address: 324 Encinal Street City: Santa Cmuz StateProv: CA PostalCode: 95060 Country: US ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.scruz.net:4321/ ASNumber: 4436 ASName: AS-SCRUZ-NET ASHandle: AS4436 Comment: RegDate: 1995-02-17 Updated: 2004-02-24 On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Jeroen Massar wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [cc: to hostmaster () arin net, maybe now it will get their attention instead of going into /dev/null] Hi, Here is some operational content, instead of Packet Kiddies trying to rape each other verbally ;) According to Toshikazu Saito (Powerdcom):I know both ASs, 4436 and 4474 are yours, so nlayer should resolve this problem or respond to this.But: OrgName: Global Village Communication, Inc. OrgID: GVC-8 Address: 1144 East Arques Avenue City: Sunnyvale StateProv: CA PostalCode: 94086 Country: US ASNumber: 4474 ASName: GVIL1 ASHandle: AS4474 Comment: The information for this ASN has been reported to Comment: be invalid. ARIN has attempted to obtain updated data, but has Comment: been unsuccessful. To provide current contact information, Comment: please e-mail hostmaster () arin net. RegDate: 1995-03-08 Updated: 2003-07-31 The reason for the above was that we are currently seeing 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village Communication) but apparently this is the same company and apparently they are using the bogus ASN. Bogus as it has no valid contact information See telnet://grh.sixxs.net or http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/lg/?find=2001:590::/32 for the odd routes and who it goes over. As nLayer seems to be able to only send ticket responses but there seems to be no real user alive maybe it is time to start letting their peers ask them what to do with this and if they can't contact them to just start depeering? Unresponsive "NOC"'s is a real nightmare. Greets, Jeroen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Unfix PGP for Outlook Comment: Jeroen Massar / http://unfix.org/~jeroen/ iQBGBAERAgAQCRApqihSMz58IwUCQFb4WAAAoTsAniiZQnM0LhXbVJD7keZCNu6f CM2OAKCPs2tdOfwt49m8/xLnugqyGRMnGA== =ePKi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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- 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) Jeroen Massar (Mar 16)
- Re: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) william(at)elan.net (Mar 16)
- Re: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) John Payne (Mar 16)
- RE: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) Matthew Kaufman (Mar 16)
- Re: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) bill (Mar 16)
- RE: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) Jeroen Massar (Mar 16)
- Re: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) Richard A Steenbergen (Mar 16)
- RE: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) Jeroen Massar (Mar 16)
- RE: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) Jeroen Massar (Mar 16)
- RE: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) Jeroen Massar (Mar 16)
- Re: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) Joe Abley (Mar 16)
- Re: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) Richard A Steenbergen (Mar 16)
- Re: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...) william(at)elan.net (Mar 16)