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Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)
From: Kelly Setzer <Kelly.Setzer () LiquidChicken org>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:50:35 -0600
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 12:21:54PM -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
No true in many cases. All I have to prove is it's not the network and then I hand it off to the windows/*nix/<whatever> sysadmins. To prove it's not the network, I don't need to know the end systems in any sort of detail.to pass the buck, one needs to know nothing. what makes a great noc engineer is taking ownership of the user's problem.
The fact of the matter is, business environments today do not frequently seek specific expertise to solve specific problems, preferring instead to (ab)use existing employees to do more than they were hired to do with less time, less training, and fewer resources than they need. Similarly, "experts" brought in from the outside are usually expected to opine on their areas of expertise as little as possible so that they can be similarly (ab)used to do things other than what they were contracted to do. While taking responsibility for solving problems is an important quality, knowing how to effectively use your time is equally important. On a good note, contract killers seem exempt from this trend. Kelly
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- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?), (continued)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Robert E. Seastrom (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Pete Templin (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Pete Templin (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Pete Templin (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Alexei Roudnev (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Scott Weeks (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Randy Bush (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Kelly Setzer (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Alexei Roudnev (Mar 15)
- network or not? Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Scott Weeks (Mar 16)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Robert E. Seastrom (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Stephen J. Wilcox (Mar 15)
- Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?) Alexei Roudnev (Mar 15)