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Re: Counter DoS
From: Gregory Taylor <greg () xwb com>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:54:51 -0800
Yes, lets allow the kiddies who already get away with as little work as they can in order to produce the most destruction they can, the ability to use these 'Security Systems' as a new tool for DoS attacks against their enemies.
Scenerio: Lets say my name is: l33th4x0rI want to attack joeblow.cable.com because joeblow666 was upset that I called his mother various inappropriate names.
I find IP for joeblow.cable.com to be 192.168.69.69I find one of these 'security' systems, or multiple security systems, and i decide to forge a TCP attack from 192.168.69.69 to these 'security systems'.
These 'security systems' then, thinking joeblow is attacking their network, will launch a retaliatory attack against the offender, 192.168.69.69 thus destroying his connectivity.
Kiddie 1 Joeblow 0 The Internet as a whole 0 Greg Rachael Treu wrote:
Mmm. A firewall that lands you immediately in hot water with your ISP and possibly in a courtroom, yourself. Hot. Legality aside... I don't imagine it would be too hard to filter these retaliatory packets, either. I expect that this would be more wad-blowing than cataclysm after the initial throes, made all the more ridiculousby the nefarious realizing the new attack mechanism created by these absurd boxen. A new point of failure and an amplifier rolled allinto one! Joy! More buffoonery contributed to the miasma. Nice waste of time, Symbiot. Thanks for the pollution, and shame on the dubious ZDnet for perpetuating this garbage. ymmv, --ra
Current thread:
- Re: Counter DoS, (continued)
- Re: Counter DoS Stephen J. Wilcox (Mar 14)
- Re: Counter DoS Rachael Treu (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Brian Bruns (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Brian Bruns (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Gregory Taylor (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Rachael Treu (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Vinny Abello (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS E.B. Dreger (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Rachael Treu (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Gregory Taylor (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Deepak Jain (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Rachael Treu (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Petri Helenius (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS william(at)elan.net (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Brian Bruns (Mar 11)
- Re: Counter DoS Rachael Treu (Mar 15)