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Re: Math 011 (Re: "Default" Points on your Internet "Re: Re: Re:")


From: "George Roettger" <geoincidents () nls net>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 06:33:52 -0400



GR> Virus infections are a day to day occurance, not some

And being the status quo justifies something how?

No it doesn't justify it, it simply means it's not an emergency.

* You have an infected machine that has absolutely no chance of
  harming anyone else.  Should you care?  ("Yes" reflects concern
  about the customer; "no" is the Internet-minded attitude.)  At
  any rate, disconnection would be foolish.

Yes of course you should care, but it should not be a high a priority as say
a down situation.

* I have an infected machine that pounds out attacks and exploits
  at high speeds, hurting thousands of systems hourly.  Would you
  like it shut off?  Probably.  Do you not agree that this is
  grounds for disco/throttling/proxy -- at least temporarily?

High priority because it can or is causing a down situation for someone.

If you don't agree with me on the extremes, I think you're nuts.
If you agree with me on the extremes, then we're arguing over
where the boundaries should be.

We aren't arguing over boundries, all I'm trying to say is that without
customers the internet shuts down. So perhaps it's time to become a bit more
customer oriented in our thinking of how to deal with the issues we face
today. Automatically sand boxing business dsl customers is a bad idea. Do
you want your backbone providers to do that to you because of a virus
infection on your network?

Geo.


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