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Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs?
From: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex () relcom net>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:04:25 -0800
1) Cisco ISL is much better than urgly 802.1q - first of all, it was designed many years before 802.1q. I am not even talking abiout those idiots, who designed 802.1q as a _spanning tree on the trunk level_, which made many configurations (which we used with ISL ain 199x years) impossble, and caused vendors to extend 802.1q. 2) Of course, VLAN does not infer routing. But VLAN routing can be provided on the switch fabric, effectively bypassing many traditional drawbacks - see Cisco 6509, for example. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Wallingford" <brian () meganet net> To: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex () relcom net> Cc: "ken emery" <ken () cnet com>; <nanog () merit edu> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:17 PM Subject: Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs?
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, Alexei Roudnev wrote: : :L3 switchiong is just term for idiots - it is ROUTING in old terms. So, :VLAN's means _routing_. Um, no, VLAN does not infer routing. 802.1q and even Cisco's ugly proprietary ISL both operate at layer two. As to "L3 switching" and the spin involved in such, it's an old, predictable story, which we all wrote off as marketing drivel at least a couple years ago...
Current thread:
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs?, (continued)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Niels Bakker (Jan 25)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? ken emery (Jan 25)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 25)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Will Hargrave (Jan 25)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Jeff Kell (Jan 25)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? variable (Jan 26)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 25)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Alexei Roudnev (Jan 25)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Brian Wallingford (Jan 25)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Alexei Roudnev (Jan 25)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Peter J Hill (Jan 26)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Alexei Roudnev (Jan 26)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? sthaug (Jan 26)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Scott McGrath (Jan 26)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? sthaug (Jan 26)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Alexei Roudnev (Jan 26)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? Alexei Roudnev (Jan 26)
- Re: Any 1U - 2U Ethernet switches that can handle 4K VLANs? haesu (Jan 27)