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Re: One-element vs two-element design


From: Scott McGrath <mcgrath () fas harvard edu>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:44:54 -0500 (EST)



I personally favor the N+1 design model as it allows maintenance to be
performed on network elements without causing outages which makes the
customers happy.

In many instances you can leverage the N+1 model to share the load between
the devices thereby increasing network capacity.  As an addtional benefit
in the event of a element failure your network degrades gracefully rather
than failing hard and requiring a "all hands" operation to get it back
online.  This tends to reduce your operational costs for your network even
though your implementation cost is higher so over the lifetime of your
network the overall cost is lower.  i.e. service contracts can be NBD
rather than 24x7x2.

The N+1 model also takes into account the simple fact that stuff breaks!.
I was reading the FIPS standards for machine room design one day and an
entire page was devoted to "ALL EQUIPMENT WILL FAIL EVENTUALLY" this is a
lesson which is often forgotten.

This is why commercial airliners have multiple engines even though the
system is less reliable overall than a well designed single engine craft
the failure of a single component does not entail the catastrophic failure
of the entire system.  (there are exceptions to this but the overall
concept does work).

In the end it comes down to reliable vs resilient network.  s in a
reliable network components fail infrequently but they have catastrophic
failure modes in a resilient network component failure is taken as a given
but the overall system reliability is much higher than a reliable network
since a component failure does not equal a functional failure.


                            Scott C. McGrath

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 Brent_OKeeffe () asc aon com wrote:

One key consideration you should think about is the ability to perform
maintenance on redundant devices in the N+1 model without impacting the
availability of the network.

Brent




Timothy Brown <tim () tux org>
Sent by: owner-nanog () merit edu
01/16/2004 10:14 PM


        To:     nanog () merit edu
        cc:
        Subject:        One-element vs two-element design



I fear this may be a mother of a debate.

In my (short?) career, i've been involved in several designs, some
successful,
some less so.  I've recently been asked to contribute a design for one of
the
networks I work on.  The design brings with it a number of challenges, but
also, unlike a greenfield network, has a lot of history.

One of the major decisions i'm being faced with is a choice between
one-element
or two-element design.  When I refer to elements, what I really mean to
say
is N or N+1.  For quite some time now, vendors have been improving
hardware
to the point where most components in a given device, with the exception
of
a line card, can be made redundant.  This includes things like routing and
switching processors, power supplies, busses, and even, in the case of
vendor
J and several others, the possibility of inflight restarts of  particular
portions of the software as part of either scheduled maintenance or to
correct
a problem.

I have always been traditionally of the school of learning that states
that
it is best to have two devices of equal power and on the same footing,
and,
in multiple site configurations, four devices of equal power and equal
footing.
I feel like a safe argument to make is N+1, so that is the philosophy that
I tend to adopt.  N+2 or N...whatever doesn't seem to add a lot of
additional
security into the network's model of availability.  This adds complexity,
but
I prefer to think of this in terms of,  "Well, I can manage software or
design
complexity in my configurations, but I can't manage the loss of a single
device which holds my network together."  Now I must view this assertion
in
the context of better designed hardware and cheap spares-on-hand.

Of course, like many other folks, I have tried to drink as deeply as I can
from the well of knowledge.  I've perused at length Cisco Press' High
Availability Network Fundamentals, and understand MTBF calculations and
some of the design issues in building a highly available network.  But
from
a cost perspective, it seems that a single, larger box may be able to
offer me
as much redundancy as two equally configured boxes handling the same
traffic
load.  Of course, there's that little demon on my shoulder, that tells me
that I could always lose a complete device due to a power issue or short,
and then i'd be up a creek.

We have a history of adopting the N+1 model on the specific network i'm
talking about, and it has worked very well so far in the face of
occassional
software failures by a vendor we occassionally have ridiculed here on
nanog-l.
However, in considering a comprehensive redesign, another vendor offers
significantly more software stability, so i'm re-evaluating the need for
multiple devices.

My mind's more or less already made up, but i'd like to hear the design
philosophies of other members of the operational community when adopting a
N+1 approach.  In particular, i'd love to hear a catastrophic operational
failure which either proves or disproves either of the potential options.

Tim

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thoughts
on this matter being published in a book targeted to the operations
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