Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses

["Rubens Kuhl Jr." <rubens () email com>]

Using real but announced IPs for routers will make their packets fail
unicast-RPF checks, dropping traceroute and PMTUD responses as happens with
RFC1918 addresses.


Rubens

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew Crocker" <matthew () crocker com>
To: "Brian (nanog-list)" <nanog () confluence com>
Cc: <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses




Search the archives,  Comcast and other cable/DSL providers use the
10/8 for their infrastructure.  The Internet itself doesn't need to be
Internet routable.  Only the edges need to be routable. It is common
practice to use RFC1918 address space inside the network. Companies
like Sprint and Verio use 'real' IPs but don't announce them to their
peers on customer edge routes.

-Matt

On Feb 2, 2004, at 6:01 PM, Brian (nanog-list) wrote:

> Any ideas how (or why) the following traceroutes are leaking private
> RFC1918 addresses back to me when I do a traceroute?
>
> Maybe try from your side of the internet and see if you get the same
> types of responses.
>
> It's really strange to see 10/8's and 192.168/16 addresses coming from
> the public internet. Has this phenomenon been documented anywhere?
> Connectivity to the end-sites is fine, it's just the traceroutes that
> are strange.
>
> (initial few hops sanitized)
>
> [brian@testbox1 /]# traceroute www.ibm.com
> traceroute: Warning: www.ibm.com has multiple addresses; using
> 129.42.17.99
> traceroute to www.ibm.com (129.42.17.99), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
> 1 (---.---.---.---) 2.481 ms 2.444 ms 2.379 ms
> 2 (---.---.---.---) 17.964 ms 17.529 ms 17.632 ms
> 3 so-1-2.core1.Chicago1.Level3.net (209.0.225.1) 17.891 ms 17.985
> ms 18.026 ms
> 4 so-11-0.core2.chicago1.level3.net (4.68.112.194) 18.272 ms
> 18.109 ms 17.795 ms
> 5 so-4-1-0.bbr2.chicago1.level3.net (4.68.112.197) 17.851 ms
> 17.859 ms 18.094 ms
> 6 so-3-0-0.mp1.stlouis1.level3.net (64.159.0.49) 23.095 ms 22.975
> ms 22.998 ms
> 7 ge-7-1.hsa2.stlouis1.level3.net (64.159.4.130) 23.106 ms 23.237
> ms 22.977 ms
> 8 unknown.level3.net (63.20.48.6) 24.264 ms 24.099 ms 24.154 ms
> 9 10.16.255.10 (10.16.255.10) 24.164 ms 24.108 ms 24.105 ms
> 10 * * *
>
>
>
> [brian@testbox1 /]# traceroute www.att.net
> traceroute: Warning: www.att.net has multiple addresses; using
> 204.127.166.135
> traceroute to www.att.net (204.127.166.135), 30 hops max, 38 byte
> packets
> 1 (---.---.---.---) 2.404 ms 2.576 ms 2.389 ms
> 2 (---.---.---.---) 17.953 ms 18.170 ms 17.435 ms
> 3 500.pos2-1.gw10.chi2.alter.net (63.84.96.9) 18.077 ms * 18.628 ms
> 4 0.so-6-2-0.xl1.chi2.alter.net (152.63.69.170) 18.238 ms 18.321
> ms 18.213 ms
> 5 0.so-6-1-0.BR6.CHI2.ALTER.NET (152.63.64.49) 18.269 ms 18.396
> ms 18.329 ms
> 6 204.255.169.146 (204.255.169.146) 19.231 ms 19.042 ms 18.982 ms
> 7 tbr2-p012702.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.11.209) 20.530 ms 20.542
> ms 23.033 ms
> 8 tbr2-cl7.sl9mo.ip.att.net (12.122.10.46) 26.904 ms 27.378 ms
> 27.320 ms
> 9 tbr1-cl2.sl9mo.ip.att.net (12.122.9.141) 27.194 ms 27.673 ms
> 26.677 ms
> 10 gbr1-p10.bgtmo.ip.att.net (12.122.4.69) 26.606 ms 28.026 ms
> 26.246 ms
> 11 12.122.248.250 (12.122.248.250) 27.296 ms 28.321 ms 28.997 ms
> 12 192.168.254.46 (192.168.254.46) 28.522 ms 30.111 ms 27.439 ms
> 13 * * *
> 14 * * *