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Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)


From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () darkwing uoregon edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:17:24 -0800 (PST)


On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:


On 17 Feb 2004, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:

Randy Bush <randy () psg com> writes:

and, if you want to see a particularly broken example, buy "internet
service" from t-mobile gprs in the states, port 22 blocked, no smtp relay,
...  "walled garden" mentality from the get go.

Strangely enough, the only complaints I've heard about t-mob GPRS (aside from
whininess about the 800ms latency typical of GPRS) involved a protracted
effort, eventually successful, to get them to understand that having
*something*, *anything* in the in-addr.arpa for their address pool was a Good
Plan...  and that was a year or two ago.

whilst in miami i found roaming onto t-mobile to be less than useless (att was 
barely any better altho i could dial on att). gprs on both networks was slow and 
kicked me after a couple minutes of being connected, however i could ssh albeit 
briefly!

dialing *99# from my laptop gets me this.

from my laptop 10.153.102.41 to my work desktop

[joelja@joelja-vaio joelja]$ ssh -l joelja twin.uoregon.edu
ssh: connect to host twin.uoregon.edu port 22: Network is unreachable

ok how bout smtp 
                                                                                
[joelja@joelja-vaio joelja]$ telnet twin.uoregon.edu 25
Trying 128.223.214.27...
Connected to twin.uoregon.edu.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 twin.uoregon.edu ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.10/8.12.5; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 
17:55:03 -\080

that works, port 80
                                                                                
[joelja@joelja-vaio joelja]$ telnet twin.uoregon.edu 80
Trying 128.223.214.27...
Connected to twin.uoregon.edu.
Escape character is '^]'.
                   
ok another host on another network (my home)
                                                             
[joelja@joelja-vaio joelja]$ ssh -l joelja blotto.ath.cx
ssh: connect to host blotto.ath.cx port 22: Connection timed out

I haven't had any joy working through t-mobile on why they do this but it 
sucks and it makes my phone (nokia 3650) a lot less useful. Yes blotto 
has an ssh on an alternate port but that means hauling eveything back 
through there instead of being able to just connect back to the   whatever 
host I want.

joelja

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