nanog mailing list archives
Re: Network and security experts (was Re: Dumb users spread viruses)
From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () research att com>
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:39:33 -0500
In message <20040209181258.GA34537 () typo org>, "Wayne E. Bouchard" writes:
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 12:41:26PM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote:On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, John Payne wrote:--On Sunday, February 8, 2004 10:46 PM +0000 Paul Vixie <vixie () vix com> wrote:There is nothing wrong with a user who thinks they should not have to knowhow to protect their computer from virus infections.However, someone attending NANOG should at least have cleaned up slammer before connecting to the wireless...I have never seen any evidence that security experts or network operators are any better at practicing security than any other user group. In every forum I've been at, the infection rates have been similar regardless of the attendees security experience.This is dramatically demonstrated by the number of NANOG attendees that do not utilize encrypted paths to communicate back to their offices and who do not maintain at least passable password standards for their own accounts. It always astonishes me to see passwords such as "asdfg", "microsoft", and "password" come up on that list.
Yah -- and you see that on telnets and snmp queries to live routers, on the nanog wireless net. That's *after* the demonstration that a few of us did last time... --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb
Current thread:
- Re: Dumb users spread viruses, (continued)
- Re: Dumb users spread viruses Robert Boyle (Feb 09)
- Re: Dumb users spread viruses Tom (UnitedLayer) (Feb 09)
- Re: Dumb users spread viruses Eric A. Hall (Feb 09)
- Re: Dumb users spread viruses John Payne (Feb 09)
- Re: Dumb users spread viruses John Payne (Feb 09)
- Network and security experts (was Re: Dumb users spread viruses) Sean Donelan (Feb 09)
- Re: Network and security experts (was Re: Dumb users spread viruses) Kevin Oberman (Feb 09)
- Re: Network and security experts (was Re: Dumb users spread viruses) doug (Feb 09)
- Re: Network and security experts (was Re: Dumb users spread viruses) Wayne E. Bouchard (Feb 09)
- Re: Network and security experts (was Re: Dumb users spread viruses) Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 09)
- Re: Network and security experts (was Re: Dumb users spread viruses) Steven M. Bellovin (Feb 09)