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Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:26:38 +0100
On 19-dec-04, at 5:45, Sean Donelan wrote:
Some manufactures, such as Apple AirPort Extreme, also make dialup gateways with dialup modem PPP and firewall capabilities.
Actually the Airport Extreme doesn't do firewalling.
Its a myth that dialup is "safer" than broadband.
Well, everything takes longer, including getting infected. :-)But why are we discussing this again, for the 2^56th time? People on this list either know how to do the right thing (with or without a firewall), or are too stubborn to, regardless of having all the relevant information.
As for the people who aren't on this list, the majority of them don't care, so let's wait until they start to, and do something that's more useful and more fun in the mean time.
And:
NIC manufacturers will start including built-in hardware firewalls.
You're kidding, right?If the NIC filter is easy to configure in software, it's just hardware support for software firewalling which you don't believe in. If the NIC filter isn't easy to configure in software, people can no longer use their unsafe protocols even on LANs, defeating the purpose of these unsafe protocols (conspiracy nuts may believe the purpose of these protocols is their WAN mis-use, of course).
-- "Every computer sold in the US is safe by default. It is powered off, disconnected, in a factory sealed box" - Sean Donelan, on NANOG
Current thread:
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing, (continued)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 19)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 19)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Sean Donelan (Dec 19)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Richard Irving (Dec 19)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Petri Helenius (Dec 19)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing David Vincent (Dec 19)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Jerry Pasker (Dec 19)
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- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 19)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Larry Smith (Dec 19)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Charles Cala (Dec 20)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Iljitsch van Beijnum (Dec 19)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Robert E. Seastrom (Dec 19)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Iljitsch van Beijnum (Dec 19)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Alexei Roudnev (Dec 20)
- RE: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Scott Morris (Dec 19)
- RE: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Christopher L. Morrow (Dec 20)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 20)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Christopher L. Morrow (Dec 20)
- Re: New Computer? Six Steps to Safer Surfing Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 20)