Re: Dampening considered harmful? (Was: Re: verizon.net and other email grief)

[Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>]

On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 12:42:21AM +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> On 17-dec-04, at 0:21, Jerry Pasker wrote:
>
> > >    ie: does dampening cause more problems than it tries to solve/avoid
> > > these days.
>
> > I don't know what takes more router resources;  dampening enabled 
> > doing the dampening calculations, or no dampening and constantly 
> > churning the BGP table.  I would assume dampening generally saves 
> > router resources, or operators wouldn't chose to enable it.
>
> One reason to be careful with dampening is that flaps can be 
> multiplied. (Connect to routeviews and see the different flap counts 
> under different peers for the same flap at your end to observe this.)

        There have been numerous people who have spoken and released
research on this topic.

        I think with the "better" routing code out there these
days, that most people can quickly handle a large number
of next-hop changes, etc.. in their hw/sw that disabling dampening
would allow the networks to reconverge fairly quickly without (much)
trouble.  (going to respond to the streaming video/audio/whatnot
issue seperately).

        - jared

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