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Re: Juniper failes to change keys (More MD5 fun: Cisco uses wrong MD5key for old session after key change)


From: sthaug () nethelp no
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 22:46:58 +0200


After a while I decided to change the MD5 key. The session with the new
key came up and looked fine, but the old session didn't close properly.
Notice the close is initiated from the Juniper side, and the first
packet from the Cisco side is now sent with an invalid MD5 digest - it
turns out that the packet is actually sent with an MD5 digest based on
the *new* key:

This is a feature, and hopefully Juniper will also add the same feature
soon.  The feature allows you to change the MD5 key without flapping the
BGP session which is very important on large peering sessions.  There is
no requirement that MD5 keys must remain constant throughout an entire TCP
session, or to terminate a TCP session when the key changes.  As long as
both sides agree, the key can be changed at any time including in the
middle of a TCP session. New packets after the key change are sent with
message digests based on the new key.

But as long as the session *is* reset anyway, the current situation is
extremely confusing - the log messages (on both Cisco and Juniper) give
no indication that the invalid key in question is for an *old* BGP
session, no longer active!

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug () nethelp no


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