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Re: Backbone IP network Economics - peering and transit
From: Daniel Golding <dgolding () burtongroup com>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:32:14 -0400
Cynical? Gee, I hope so. Anyone who reads that sort of fluff needs to be cynical. Lack of appropriate cynicism led, in part, to the "recent unpleasantness" in the telecommunications industry. Words like "enabling", "leveraging", "mindshare", "b2b", "e-*", "i-*", et al, are considered harmful to fruitful operational discussion :) -- Daniel Golding Network and Telecommunications Strategies Burton Group On 4/20/04 2:17 PM, "Gary Hale" <ghale () globalinternetworking com> wrote:
Daniel, That is way too cynical ... and does not address the question of whether building your own transport ever runs counter to the Internet as a consortium. There are business justifications that underpin peering relationships ... and they are based on understanding (or ... "philosophy") .... Gary -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Golding [mailto:dgolding () burtongroup com] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:36 AM To: Gary Hale; Michel Py; Gordon Cook; nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: Backbone IP network Economics - peering and transit On 4/20/04 8:45 AM, "Gary Hale" <ghale () globalinternetworking com> wrote:The question is too simplistic ... It is not (simply) a matter ofsmallvs. big or being on your own network from source-to-destination.Peeringis an enabler ... and gives all an opportunity to share contentglobally... kinda' fundamental to the Internet consortium. Is your question, 'Since fiber is so cheap, why doesn't everyone build an autonomous, facilities-based, global "Internet" network thatcompetesfor narrowband/broadband "pullers" of data and hosting/datacenters/etc.for content providers ("pulled-fromers" or "pushers" of data)? Gary -----Original Message----- From: Michel Py [mailto:michel () arneill-py sacramento ca us] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:46 PM To: Gordon Cook; nanog () merit edu Subject: RE: Backbone IP network Economics - peering and transitPeering? Who needs peering if transit can be had for $20 per megabit per second?The smaller guys that don't buy transit buy the gigabit. Michel.Gary, "Peering is an enabler" "gives all an opportunity to share content globally" "fundamental to the Internet consortium" This is like the "greatest hits" compendium collected from various failed 1990's service provider business plans :) People should be careful. Peering is a business/networking arrangement that can save them money (or not). Those who try to imbue it with philosophical significance must be viewed with skepticism. Daniel Golding Network and Telecommunications Strategies Burton Group
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- Re: Backbone IP network Economics - peering and transit Daniel Golding (Apr 20)
- RE: Backbone IP network Economics - peering and transit Stephen J. Wilcox (Apr 22)
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