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RE: Providers removing blocks on port 135?


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:23:28 -0700


OK... Obviously, you need to do what you need to do to keep things
running.  However, that should be a temporary crisis response.  If your
equipment is getting DOS'd for more than a few months, we need to find
a way to fix a bigger problem. Permanently breaking some service (regardless of what we think of it. Personally, I'll be glad to see M$ go down in flames)
is _NOT_ the correct answer.

Owen


--On Friday, September 19, 2003 10:14 AM -0700 Matthew Kaufman <matthew () eeph com> wrote:

I agree entirely with this. You shouldn't call yourself an ISP unless you
can transport the whole Internet, including those "bad Microsoft ports",
between the world and your customers.

On the other hand, what's a provider to do when their access hardware
can't deal with a pathological set of flows or arp entries? There isn't a
good business case to forklift out your DSLAMs and every customer's
matching CPE when a couple of ACLs will fix the problem. For that matter,
there isn't a very good business case for transporting Nachi's ICMP
floods across an international backbone network when you can do a bit of
rate-limiting and cut your pipe requirements by 10-20%.

Matthew Kaufman
matthew () eeph com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On
Behalf Of Owen DeLong
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Jack Bates; Adam Hall
Cc: 'nanog () nanog org'
Subject: Re: Providers removing blocks on port 135?



FWIW, my opinion is that blocking this at the customer edge
per customer request is fine.  Any other blocking by an ISP
is damage and should be routed around like any other internet damage.

Owen





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