RE: dry pair

["Eric Germann" <ekgermann () cctec com>]

Getting it to work at all can be a challenge.  Alarm circuits are not
groomed to remove stray drops that got cut at the house, not at the pole,
etc.  We looked at rolling out DSL 2 years ago using our own DSL equipment
cause sprint didn't have dslams installed.  They had conveniently pulled
their tariff for alarm circuits.  Dry pairs were $70/mo each and the install
was $100+.  When I asked them the process, they said the x-conn'd the
customer prem pair to our pair and hoped it worked.  If it didn't, THEN they
would go clean it up.

IF you can still get an alarm circuit, good luck getting it cleaned up if
bridge taps are wreaking havoc, and they will with some DSL gear.  We were
told the alarm circuits were rated for up to 1200bps.

Then again, I have another client who orders them from Sprint all the time
for OPX voice use.  As a friend of mine once observed, its who you know and
who you _____.

Eric


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
> Wayne
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:52 PM
> To: Austad, Jay
> Cc: nanog () merit edu
> Subject: Re: dry pair
>
>
>
> Austad, Jay wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know to go about getting Qwest or a CLEC to patch
> through a dry
> > pair between two buildings connected to the same CO?
> >
> > When I called to order one, no one knew what I was talking about.
> >
> > -jay
> Most of the other responses have covered the various terms to try when
> ordering this type of ckt.  All I can say is good luck.  I did this back
> in 1994 with some HDSL modems from Pairgain and it worked like a charm.
>   (btw, I got the 2 ckts I needed for the connection by ordering 2
> "alarm ckts" and then rewiring the separate jacks into a single jack for
> the modem)
>
> However, this was before the days of mass DSL deployment and CLECs.  The
> local loop is managed a little tighter these days and ILECs are a lot
> less willing to sell this type of service.  As someone else said, even
> if you can get a sales rep to sell it to you, getting it repaired when
> it fails will be quite a challenge.  Seems like business DSL would be
> less headache in the long run.
>
>
> --
> Wayne Gustavus
> --