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Knock, Noc... Whos there?
From: bmanning () karoshi com
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:27:07 -0700 (PDT)
... probably most of the Abuse issues (especially via email) would continue to be ignored. Noone wants to handle that stuff. But someone(s) must handle that stuff.the underlying question is, "or else what?" this is an assymetric-benefit situation. when folks ignore reports from noncustomers the people they are hurting are those noncustomers. as sean and others have pointed out, there's no incentive-stick in that equation. someone asked me privately:and why would anyone care about branding? what would it gain them? until theres financial penalties for being a bad netizen, there wont be any incentive to follow the rules.if it were a checklist item for government/military/largecommercial contracts then you can bet that the sales team in every large/medium isp would beat the drum internally to ensure qualification and compliance. given the somewhat direct relationship between insider (customer) service, outsider responsiveness, and network uptime, this isn't a hard sell. what's hard is figuring out who can host the brand and what collection of people (network owners and their customers) can be trusted to define it. i'm thinking the new NRO (joint project by apnic/lacnic/ripe/arin) might be the right place to home a responsible-network-ownership branding program.
Comments about the NRO should be directed to the NRO discussion list. nro-comments () apnic net Specifics on the NRO proposal may be found on any/each of the RIR web sites. --bill
Current thread:
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Paul Vixie (Sep 29)
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Alan Spicer (Sep 29)
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Paul Vixie (Sep 29)
- Knock, Noc... Whos there? bmanning (Sep 29)
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Alan Spicer (Sep 29)
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Paul Vixie (Sep 29)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Michael . Dillon (Sep 29)
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Alan Spicer (Sep 29)