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Re: [nsp] Re: Per VLAN Stats on MSFC2 - Complaints from the Field
From: Anthony Cennami <narziss () cdardn net>
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:45:04 -0500
This too is a discussion argued a number of times previously. Personally, I prefer the architecture where one port belongs to one VLAN; this is obviously not appropriate in all situations, but it is in mine.
Nothing in this world is free, and the bandwidth that a customer uses across my network is not either, regardless if it's in between their own two servers. In instances where a customer has multiple machines which require communication between one another, it is held at the customers discretion to purchase a private switch and second NIC(s), so our billing system remains ignorant, or get billed for the traffic.
If you are someone who enjoys living dangerously, there are also a variety of Flow based accounting systems and Probes which would allow you to bill based on the flow/IP accounting, rather than SNMP on your access devices. This can be done either through your choice Layer 3 device or a third-party promiscuous probe.
I'm sure that everybody here has their own idea on best how to do this, and what is 'right' for them; my argument is only that falsifying data through propagation from multi layer switching does not at all seem to be the best way.
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Anthony Cennami wrote:If you want to bill accurately, bill off the Layer 2 ports; that's what is always churning the traffic. I've not looked at the accuracy on a scientific level, but I've never found what I believed to be a serious discrepency when billing/polling the physical ports.What about the cases where the customer has more than 1 port on your switch, you must then aggregate the traffic from N ports, discount the data between the local hosts and only bill for the actual up/down from the switch to the core, no? That seems complex, of course perhaps only 1 port per customer makes some sense in these cases too, eh?
Current thread:
- Re: [nsp] Re: Per VLAN Stats on MSFC2 - Complaints from the Field Anthony Cennami (Nov 20)
- Re: [nsp] Re: Per VLAN Stats on MSFC2 - Complaints from the Field Christopher L. Morrow (Nov 20)
- Re: [nsp] Re: Per VLAN Stats on MSFC2 - Complaints from the Field Anthony Cennami (Nov 20)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: [nsp] Re: Per VLAN Stats on MSFC2 - Complaints from the Field Stephen J. Wilcox (Nov 20)
- Re: [nsp] Re: Per VLAN Stats on MSFC2 - Complaints from the Field Christopher L. Morrow (Nov 20)