Re: Re[2]: The in-your-face hijacking example, was: Re: Who is announcing bogons?

["Scott Granados" <scott () wworks net>]

I would also like to state on Emil's behalf that from what I know as one of his providers that seems to be a true 
story.  I assigned and swipped him ip space which he has used and I have never gotten one spam complaint from the space 
we assigned him.

I have had a couple port scanning complaints however Emil himself has told me to null these blocks and notify him 
shutting them down first and dealing with the issue in a more controled way.  Emil has on many occasions restarted 
machines or helped with server work in the colos we occupy together and I'm glad to have him as a customer.  If again 
someone out there has documented proof that these blocks are stolen please present them to me on or off list I'll be 
glad to react appropriately.  I'll also publically offer here to assist Emil in obtaining a direct allocation which 
would be entirely new if he wishes that may put this matter to bed as well.  I definitely appreciate input from 
everyone however this is the first time I'd ever been presented with a case like this.  So I'm learning and  if anyone 
disagrees with me please tell me.  I'm always up for discussion and know there are many on this list far more qualified 
and experienced than my self.  I'm quite certain that this has gone way way off topic however so I'll stop here and 
hopefully we can get back to more operational discussions.



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: emil () atrivo com 
  To: nanog () merit edu 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 10:42 PM
  Subject: Re: Re[2]: The in-your-face hijacking example, was: Re: Who is announcing bogons?


  Hello Everyone,

  Let's see if we can clarify this once and for all.  ISD owner was a good friend of mine and helped me when I ran a 
computer store.  Without him I couldn't run the store and over the years I have repaid him for his contributions.  A 
few years ago I closed the computer store and started Atrivo.  At first we acquired /24's direct from the providers 
themselves and was statically routing everything.  We did this for a few years until recently when we upgrade our 
routers and decided to BGP.  We have grown to the point that we have to prepare for the future.  

  After discussing our expansion plans to Rob, I came to find out that he did posses a /16 which his now defunct 
company wasn't using anymore.