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Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter)
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:55:45 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Leo Bicknell wrote:
Could it be that providers actually have multiple sources, but for some reason GPS is always picked as the primary source for the public facing function? At least a few providers keep their actual sources (the receivers themselves) "hidden", and provide a unix box syncing to all of them as the front end. From my limited knowledge, that front end box will only show the one source it has picked as "best".
Like all answers, it depends. A relatively small number of providers have blocked access to their "master" NTP servers. So you can't see the current source from the next stratum down. You get a domain name, like ntp-1.ispdom.ain, for the source. But a large number permit queries to their NTP servers. They will report all the stratum 0 sources available, including the current sync'd source. Almost no providers use more than one stratum 0 source per NTP server. The people with lots of stratum 0 sources are almost never network service providers. Generally NSPs have 1 stratum 0 source, a two or three stratum 1 peers, and lots of stratum 2s. Most providers don't have a dedicated NTP infrastructure, so their tickers are running on routers and general purpose servers. Due to the way NTP works, it is a self-directed hierarchy. A stratum 1 chimer is only at the top while its synced to a stratum 0 source.
Current thread:
- Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter) Peter Lothberg (Jun 01)
- Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter) David G. Andersen (Jun 01)
- Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter) Marshall Eubanks (Jun 01)
- Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter) Sean Donelan (Jun 01)
- Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter) Leo Bicknell (Jun 02)
- Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter) Sean Donelan (Jun 02)
- Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter) N. Richard Solis (Jun 02)
- Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter) Roland Perry (Jun 02)
- Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter) Marshall Eubanks (Jun 01)
- Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter) Jerry Scharf (Jun 28)
- Re: Non-GPS derived timing sources (was Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter) David G. Andersen (Jun 01)