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Re: Level3 routing issues?
From: Avleen Vig <lists-nanog () silverwraith com>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:14:01 -0800
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 10:02:54PM +0000, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Avleen Vig wrote:The market we are in was specifically bred by Microsoft in the 90's when they claimed Windows was so eay to use, anyone could admin it. They've since changed their tune, but the damage has been done and continues to be done like last night :(I would agree somewhat with Avleen here... BUT, like I said, its long past the time when every internet connected org really should reevaluate their security force's size and abilities :) security is 'important' and we really SHOULD get that across to EVERYONE... or atleast that's my thought :)
You've highlightest my sentiments well :-) The past is no excuse for running a poor shop now. there have been multiple incidents over the last 3 years alone that should wake people up to the problems with their sysadmin and security staff's lack of skill be people seem not to care at all. It's ironic to note that most companies who 'dont care', do so because they don't want to pay the slightly higher buck for good staff or decent training (hard to find). While at the same time it is these companies that struggle to float while the ones spending the money get staff who really care about their work and thus impress the customers more. (this is of course just one point of view and not the only reasons companies float/sink).
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- Re: Level3 routing issues?, (continued)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Jack Bates (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Neil J. McRae (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Stephen J. Wilcox (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Neil J. McRae (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Stephen J. Wilcox (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Rafi Sadowsky (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Stephen J. Wilcox (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Scott Francis (Jan 27)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Avleen Vig (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Avleen Vig (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Marc Slemko (Jan 25)
- worm design (Re: Level3 routing issues?) E.B. Dreger (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Neil J. McRae (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Bill Woodcock (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Avleen Vig (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? K. Scott Bethke (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? K. Scott Bethke (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Jack Bates (Jan 25)
- Re: Level3 routing issues? Dave Stewart (Jan 25)