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Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?
From: "David Howe" <DaveHowe () gmx co uk>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:40:11 -0000
at Monday, January 20, 2003 5:25 AM, Deepak Jain <deepak () ai net> was seen to say:
What incentive does the end-user have to use secure systems? Should Microsoft, Sun, Sendmail Inc or ISC be required to send a technician out to fix every defective system they released? Why should the ISP be held accountable for the defects created by others? Car makers have to fix defective cars, not the highway department.Without jumping into this discussion, I would like to make the point that if a car on the highway drops something... a pebble. a window. tacks. or any other item on the highway that is potentially hazardous or inconvenient to others who want to use that highway... the car manufacturer doesn't come out, the highway department does. As long as the car _moves_ under its own power across the highway, its essentially not the car manufacturers' (or the consumers') immediate concern.
I would assume though, that if a particular model of car were frequently shedding dangerous fragments onto the road due to design flaws, the highway department might expect something be done to fix the cars and save them all that work and expense.
Current thread:
- ISPs not liable for hostile code sent between users, (continued)
- ISPs not liable for hostile code sent between users Sean Donelan (Jan 23)
- Re: ISPs not liable for hostile code sent between users Jack Bates (Jan 23)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Steven M. Bellovin (Jan 18)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Sean Donelan (Jan 18)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? E.B. Dreger (Jan 18)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Sean Donelan (Jan 18)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Steven M. Bellovin (Jan 18)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Sean Donelan (Jan 19)
- RE: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Deepak Jain (Jan 19)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? David G. Andersen (Jan 19)
- RE: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Deepak Jain (Jan 19)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? David Howe (Jan 20)
- OT: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Al Rowland (Jan 20)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Sean Donelan (Jan 19)