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Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?
From: hc <haesu () towardex com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:06:38 -0500
My previous experience with UUNET security team was excellent dealing with DoS.
I am not here to point fingers, but my DoS-response experience with various Tier-2/3 level ISP's was like talking to some K-12 teacher who barely knows what internet is. It really takes hours to get thru and reach a competent engineer on the phone. And that's the major frustration of a LOT customers getting DoSed/DDoSed/DrDoSed off the planet everyday.
-hc Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 04:29:07 GMT, "Christopher L. Morrow" said:How quickly is quickly? Often times as has been my recent experience (part of my motivation for posting this thread) the flood is over before one can get a human being on the phone.Once the call arrives and the problem is deduced it can be tracked in a matter of minutes, like 6-10 at the fastest...Yes, but *YOUR* crew has a reputation for having a clue. I'm willing to bet that "once the call arrives" is a challenge for a lot of smaller ISPs that don't even *HAVE* a security team, and "the problem is deduced" is a challenge for the ones that have a team that don't have a clue. We see a *LOT* of postings here "anybody know a clueful at XYZ, we've been DDoS'ed for 36 hours"....
Current thread:
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?, (continued)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 16)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Brad Laue (Jan 16)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 16)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? hc (Jan 16)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 16)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? E.B. Dreger (Jan 18)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Travis Pugh (Jan 16)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 16)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 16)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? hc (Jan 16)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? hc (Jan 16)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Hank Nussbacher (Jan 16)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Sean Donelan (Jan 17)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Vadim Antonov (Jan 17)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Richard Irving (Jan 17)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 17)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? alex (Jan 23)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Michael Lamoureux (Jan 23)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? alex (Jan 27)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Jack Bates (Jan 27)
- Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? E.B. Dreger (Jan 27)