Re: untied (fwd)

["Christopher L. Morrow" <chris () UU NET>]

fwd per request...

(I'm not sure how to contact united, though I'd guess PNAP/InterNap might
know, since I see the fictional www.united.com through there)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:36:00 +0900
From: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
To: Christopher L. Morrow <chris () UU NET>
Subject: Re: untied

bingo!!

so, please post to nanog

and if you know how to get to untied, ...

> So, looks like:
>
> dig www.united.com
>
> returns:
>
>  dig www.united.com
>
> ; <<>> DiG 8.1 <<>> www.united.com
> ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> ;; got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> ;; QUERY SECTION:
> ;;      www.united.com, type = A, class = IN
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> www.united.com.         5S IN A         64.95.89.8
>
> ;; Total query time: 32 msec
> ;; FROM: sharpie.argfrp.us.uu.net to SERVER: default -- 153.39.56.91
> ;; WHEN: Mon Feb 24 05:22:35 2003
> ;; MSG SIZE  sent: 32  rcvd: 48
>
> then:
>
>  dig www.united.com
>
> ; <<>> DiG 8.1 <<>> www.united.com
> ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> ;; got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 13
> ;; QUERY SECTION:
> ;;      www.united.com, type = A, class = IN
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> www.united.com.         4S IN A         64.95.89.8
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  H.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  I.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  D.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  F.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  E.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> COM.                    1d20h32m39s IN NS  M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     4d20h43m26s IN A  192.5.6.30
> G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     21h40m30s IN A  192.42.93.30
> H.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     21h40m30s IN A  192.54.112.30
> C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     21h40m30s IN A  192.26.92.30
> I.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     21h40m30s IN A  192.43.172.30
> B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     21h11m25s IN A  192.33.14.30
> D.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     21h31m38s IN A  192.31.80.30
> L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     5h52m10s IN A   192.41.162.30
> F.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     21h40m30s IN A  192.35.51.30
> J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     7h42m59s IN A   192.48.79.30
> K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     7h43m IN A      192.52.178.30
> E.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     10h26m34s IN A  192.12.94.30
> M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.     23h34m11s IN A  192.55.83.30
>
> ;; Total query time: 10 msec
> ;; FROM: sharpie.argfrp.us.uu.net to SERVER: default -- 153.39.56.91
> ;; WHEN: Mon Feb 24 05:22:36 2003
> ;; MSG SIZE  sent: 32  rcvd: 483
>
>
> and that repeats over and over and over... HOWEVER,
>
>  dig NS united.com
>
> ; <<>> DiG 8.1 <<>> NS united.com
> ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> ;; got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 2
> ;; QUERY SECTION:
> ;;      united.com, type = NS, class = IN
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> united.com.             23h59m52s IN NS  dns01.uls-prod.com.
> united.com.             23h59m52s IN NS  dns02.uls-prod.com.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> dns01.uls-prod.com.     1d11h2m40s IN A  64.95.89.200
> dns02.uls-prod.com.     1d11h2m40s IN A  64.95.88.200
>
> ;; Total query time: 1 msec
> ;; FROM: sharpie.argfrp.us.uu.net to SERVER: default -- 153.39.56.91
> ;; WHEN: Mon Feb 24 05:22:51 2003
> ;; MSG SIZE  sent: 28  rcvd: 112
>
> and then querying from one of them direct gets:
>
> timeouts for: 64.95.89.200 and 64.95.88.200
>
> So, their DNS is busted it seems :( bummer for them. (or was this not what
> you were seeing?)
>
>
>
> --Chris
> (chris () uu net)
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> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Randy Bush wrote:
>
> > could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com?  the servers
> > for united.com seem to delegate www.united.com, but the delegatee seems
> > not to return an soa.  i get very confusing results.
> >
> > randy, feeling stoopid