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Re: East Coast outage?
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:25:14 +0200
On vrijdag, aug 15, 2003, at 23:58 Europe/Amsterdam, alex () yuriev com wrote:
Amount of energy generated must be balanced with the amount of energy used at any time. Otherwise Bad Things (tm) will happen. The shutown of the grid is a very good thing compared to what it would have been had it notshutdown.
It seems to me that the power guys are still living somewhere in the last century. Is it really impossible to absorb power spikes? We can go from utility to battery or the other way around in milliseconds, so it should be possible to activate something that can absorb a short spike much the same way. Balancing intermediate-term generation/usage mismatches should be possible by simply communicating with users. There is lots of stuff out there that switches on and off periodically (all kinds of cooling systems, battery charging, lights), so let it switch on or off for a few minutes when the power network needs it to.
I think the idea that the power should be always present and always reliable is actually harmful, as it doesn't provide for any "congestion contnrol" by bringing the users into the loop.
Current thread:
- Re: East Coast outage?, (continued)
- Re: East Coast outage? Shawn Morris (Aug 14)
- RE: East Coast outage? Terry Baranski (Aug 14)
- Re: East Coast outage? Scott Bradner (Aug 14)
- Re: East Coast outage? K. Scott Bethke (Aug 14)
- Re: East Coast outage? John Kinsella (Aug 14)
- Re: East Coast outage? JC Dill (Aug 14)
- Re: East Coast outage? David Lesher (Aug 14)
- Re: East Coast outage? Joe Abley (Aug 15)
- Re: East Coast outage? JC Dill (Aug 15)
- Re: East Coast outage? alex (Aug 15)
- Re: East Coast outage? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 15)
- Re: East Coast outage? alex (Aug 15)
- Re: East Coast outage? Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 15)
- Re: East Coast outage? David Lesher (Aug 15)
- Re: East Coast outage? Scott A Crosby (Aug 15)
- Re: East Coast outage? Vadim Antonov (Aug 15)
- RE: East Coast outage? Eric Germann (Aug 15)
- Re: East Coast outage? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 16)
- Re: East Coast outage? Chris Adams (Aug 16)
- Re: East Coast outage? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 16)
- Re: East Coast outage? Jay Hennigan (Aug 16)