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Re: Fun new policy at AOL
From: Clayton Fiske <clay () bloomcounty org>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:48:47 -0700
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:04:09PM -0400, Matthew Crocker wrote:
Technically no, There is no reason for a customer to have direct access to the net so long as the ISP can provide appropriate proxies for the services required. It gets complex, it gets hard to manage but it can be done. There is a stigma against proxing because of the early days when stale content was all over the place. Does a dynamically assigned dialup/DSL user even need a valid routable IP? For games? Maybe games should be more NAT friendly. We do remove the filters for customers that have a valid need and show that they have a clue out it all works.
There is a perfectly good reason for direct access: We buy IP connectivity. We don't buy {list of specific applications} connectivity. If I create a new network application, how many ISPs are going to sit there and create a new proxy so it will work? Even on the outside chance that I could talk my own ISP into it since I pay them, it's not going to be a very useful app if one of the prerequisites is "must be a customer of ISP X". -c
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- Re: Fun new policy at AOL, (continued)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 29)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Paul Vixie (Aug 29)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Joseph McDonald (Aug 29)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Omachonu Ogali (Aug 29)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Bruce Pinsky (Aug 29)
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- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Omachonu Ogali (Aug 29)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Roland Perry (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Petri Helenius (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Matthew Crocker (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Petri Helenius (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Clayton Fiske (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Roland Perry (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Ray Wong (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Vadim Antonov (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Matthew Crocker (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Vadim Antonov (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Roland Perry (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Paul Vixie (Aug 28)
- Re: Fun new policy at AOL Stephen J. Wilcox (Aug 28)
- RE: Fun new policy at AOL Tony Hain (Aug 28)
- RE: Fun new policy at AOL JC Dill (Aug 28)